Tulpa.info - tulpa-research

឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/21/2023 3:52 AM

I mean, yeah, that's fair

http://fra.europa.eu/en/publication/2019/child-participation-research The more and more I read into this, the more it seems obvious that y'all are right- the issue is more so on personal information and protected information, not really just a random survey on tulpas

Child participation in research

3:59 AM

The "raw data" will be posted, but I will add statistical noise for privacy. And this survey would be opt-in

4:00 AM

I'm not collecting sensitive info like government names, DOBs, or anything like that. At most you can put a username and your age it's completely optional (edited)

4:01 AM

Realizes I may not have "perfer not to say" on the age question and goes to fix that (edited)

4:04 AM

Since I'm not requesting evidence of education level via education records, I'm not breaking the law either (edited)

That’s fine if you want a general survey on tulpamancy experiences, not a census of the general population of a community.

Luminesce ↩️

Reply to: Plurality in longer-lasting and settled-in systems (well, even if they're newish to plurality and si…

4:21 AM

I think both have value, but are different.

4:21 AM

By calling something a census, it implies that a diverse population will be polled to find trends and averages within the wider group. I see age as a part of that. Median age for starting tulpamancy, etc.

Luminesce: I just think "18+" is a clean and clear enough category to separate results into (edited)

Gray

Realizes I may not have "perfer not to say" on the age question and goes to fix that (edited)

tbh I've never seen "Prefer not to say" for age as used anything but for anyone 12 and under

4:23 AM

who aren't supposed to be there lol

If you’re looking for a general census of the community, I think you’d have to be willing to accept the fact that a lot of tulpa systems are neither long-lasting or functional, and that for the sake of data, that’s something that should be considered.

Luminesce: I don't mind new systems that are 18+ (edited)

If you’re looking for something less cohesive, then 18+ is fine, I just think it would be important to see the full scope of the data

But yeah we ended up saying the data can all be gathered and just sorted

tbh if we're differenciating by physical age, I think we should sort by how long the human has been tulpamancing too

I agree.

Luminesce: I personally have no interest in data that mixes 18+ results with those of 13-16 year olds (edited)

4:25 AM

But if I can choose to see just that, then there's nothing wrong with collecting it as a whole

4:25 AM

I'm just dumb and forgot for a moment that you can work with data

Yeah, I think it would be a great idea to figure out a way to filter different parts of the data.

I'm too used to vague forum polls

Especially if that can be done automatically, without needing too many manual calculations

4:26 AM

I'm not too sure how or if that can be done, but I'd appreciate the option.

Filtering and sorting is pretty easy for computers

4:26 AM

Provided, of course, that they have access to the data

4:26 AM

which may be problematic to share if it includes a username field?

Yeah, keep in mind I'm not as tech saavy as a lot of people here are. I have ideas, but no reasonable way of knowing if they're executable.

and gray specifically said they would add statistical noise, which having raw data avalible would defeat the purpose of

Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗

Yeah, keep in mind I'm not as tech saavy as a lot of people here are. I have ideas, but no reasonable way of knowing if they're executable.

Please, share them! Maybe they won't work, but maybe they will :)

Oh, I meant about the census specifically. I don't do programming or tech stuff in my spare time.

឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah

tbh I've never seen "Prefer not to say" for age as used anything but for anyone 12 and under

I can't magically stop 12 year olds from lying, but I can specify that they must be at least over 13

I think 13+ is a good idea.

4:29 AM

What's the age requirement to use .info's forums?

Here's what I have right now

Age

13-17
18-22
23-27
28-32
33-37
38-42
43-47
48-52
53-57
58-62
63-67
68-72
73+
Over 13, but prefer not to specify

Not sure if I checked.

4:29 AM

this seems far too specific, imo

Gray ↩️

Reply to: Here's what I have right now ``` Age 13-17 18-22 23-27 28-32 33-37 38-42 43-47 48-52 53-57 58-62 63…

Yeah

Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗

What's the age requirement to use .info's forums?

The age requirement to be on Discord or the forums is 13+ iirc

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4:30 AM

oops

If you're 12 you're too young for the internet (edited)

Mostly the younger ages are the ones that need to be differenciated

4:30 AM

maybe 13-15, 16-17, 18-29, 30-59, 60+?

4:30 AM

Even that's pretty specific though

I'd do:

I want to make the bins the same sizes while also be able to cut out minor data

Why the same size?

4:31 AM

I'd go with something closer to a logarithmic scale

If the bins aren't the same size, you lose the pattern in the data I need to find a resource to better explain this (edited)

?

Gray

Here's what I have right now

Age

13-17
18-22
23-27
28-32
33-37
38-42
43-47
48-52
53-57
58-62
63-67
68-72
73+
Over 13, but prefer not to specify

Luminesce: Wait why so specific lol (edited)

I see way more younger tulpamancers than older ones, so I'd consider anything above 45 to be an outlier.

Only if you're comparing raw numbers, with percentages it doesn't matter

Luminesce: I'm for it except that you're so hyper specific between 27 and 73+ (edited)

For the sake of not being too general, I'd just do 55+ or 60+. Maybe 65+ if you wanna go that high.

At most go by decade

That would work also

Or maybe don't do strict age categories?

4:34 AM

i.e. Teen, Young Adult, Adult, Elder?

4:34 AM

depends on what kind of data you want

4:34 AM

but I would definitely have smaller bins for the younger ages and larger ones for older ages

This might be too broad, and too subjective.

Hannah ↩️

Reply to: i.e. Teen, Young Adult, Adult, Elder?

4:35 AM

Those terms differ culturally, iirc. Different cultures consider different ages to be "young adults" or senior.

True

You could argue that 19 is a "young adult" AND a teen, it can fall into both.

If the binds are the same width, it can make the data more intuitive But I realized that 13-17 is 5 years, so if the others are 10 years, then you can assume that the 13-17 bracket is half the data

4:40 AM

I guess

4:40 AM

Age

13-17
18-27
28-37
38-47
48-57
58-67
68-77
78+
Over 13, but prefer not to specify

This seems better, but still feels off, I suppose?

4:41 AM

I'm all for more options, so I think it should be fine.

Those 60 year old tulpamancers are probably out there on 4chan somewhere, watching us

4:42 AM

Laughing at our every move

I wish I could meet one

4:44 AM

Not for the novelty, but to gain Elder Wisdom™️ from

Current Workload

Workload will be measured in hours per week (HPW). Include working hours from all current jobs. If not paid on a per hour basis, provide the average workload per week.

0 HPW, not applicable
0-29 HPW, part-time
30-40 HPW, full-time
41+ HPW, overwhelmed

This isn't too dramatic is it? (edited)

Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗

This seems better, but still feels off, I suppose?

Luminesce: There's no reason not to just do it how every other survey does it lol (edited)

5:07 AM

Which I forget the specifics of, but I know it's not the same number in each group up to age 30

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Census question request- When your tulpa "became vocal", "became sentient", "became seprate", etc.

~6-8 months in, 2014-2015 area, to my recollection

1. imidiately 2. like a month or tw

1-2 weeks

Luminesce: I usually use the terms "independent and autonomous" (edited)

4:00 AM

Vocal is the common term, but a lot of people don't know how to draw a line for that, so

I like that term better--right now, Blanka has a difficult time "interrupting me" so to speak; eg, if I'm not already focused on her, I'm the one who has to steer attention back her way

4:01 AM

She can speak plenty fine, has "surprising" things to say, etc

A long kiss goodnight

Census question request- When your tulpa "became vocal", "became sentient", "became seprate", etc.

Mine became vocal in 1.5 month or smt, my friends tulpa is like 1 year but he still just got responses but not any vocality yet

A long kiss goodnight

Census question request- When your tulpa "became vocal", "became sentient", "became seprate", etc.

1. Immediately 2. Immediately, aand.... 3. Immediately Now idk if that's normal tulpa behavior, if i have something else, or if i'm just a tulpamancy anomaly but It was all immediate for me

Luminesce: I'm still not sure Ranger was actually asking for answers, I think it was just suggesting the phrasing (edited)

6:31 PM

Not sure until she responds though

Yeah that's what i thought too and then other people started answering so

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Mine became vocal in 1.5 month or smt, my friends tulpa is like 1 year but he still just got responses but not any vocality yet

Interesting.

7:27 PM

@A long kiss goodnight Hey. Do you remember me?

Reisen

Luminesce: I'm still not sure Ranger was actually asking for answers, I think it was just suggesting the phrasing (edited)

No, I wasn't asking for answers. I was throwing that there as a more tounge-in-cheek way to remind ourselves Gray (my host) should add that to the census I don't mind moving this to #tulpa-discussion though

Lion

@A long kiss goodnight Hey. Do you remember me?

I do! I haven't caught up on this server yet, but we can chat in another channel

Reisen

Vocal is the common term, but a lot of people don't know how to draw a line for that, so

I think it would be interesting to use all of the terms to see how people respond to each one

Luminesce: Oh, you intended those to mean different things? (edited)

7:58 PM

I read them all as the same